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Mishlei 25:27 - Mussar for Winnie-the-Pooh (Part 2)
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Mishlei 25:27 - Mussar for Winnie-the-Pooh (Part 2)
אָכֹל דְּבַשׁ הַרְבּוֹת לֹא טוֹב, וְחֵקֶר כְּבֹדָם כָּבוֹד:
Length: 29 minutes
Synopsis: This morning (5/28/26), in our Morning Mishlei shiur, we quickly reviewed yesterday's approach, then learned Saadia Gaon's commentary (which answered a question we raised yesterday) and two approaches from the Meiri. I don't want to say that we got sidetracked, but we did get depthtracked. That's okay, because I want to spend an additional week on this pasuk. Great ideas so far!
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מקורות:
משלי כה:כז
פירוש רס"ג
מאירי
רמב"ם - אבות א:יח
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Okay, day two, Michlei 25-27. Eating too much honey is not good, and the investigation of their glory is glory. Um and I actually forgot to look into the Sadigo in Arabic because we had Sadigon saying, according to Kafek, Kamosha Achilam Ruba mean had bash in batova, just as the eating of um of honey, uh excessive eating of honey contains no good. So we uh there was a machlokus in this year. I thought takhlis meant limit, and others thought it meant uh purpose. So I just right now looked up in the Klein dictionary, which is the best dictionary for uh what do you call it? Not just biblical Hebrew. BDB is just biblical Hebrew. So the Klein dictionary says uh first meaning is end, second is completeness, and third meaning is aim, purpose, intention. So I I I I still think it means end, and then I also looked at Sadio's commentary, which we'll see. I I think I'm right, but uh we'll we'll uh I just want to uh seed that. Okay. So our questions were who is the subject of the Kvodam, who's Kovod? Two, what does Kekir Kvodam Kovod mean, such that it is not a tautology? Three, why specifically honey, given that anything eaten in large or excessive quantities is is uh not going to be good. Four, the implication is not that eating, sorry, is that eating not too much honey is good. What is that good and how much? And we said that honey is was viewed as medicinal, um uh or at least very healthy in small quantities. Uh five, is achul devar harabos? Is that supposed to be divash? Probably devash, right?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, is achul Divash uh eating the uh the academic guy's translation.
SPEAKER_01Uh yeah, it's seeped in there. Uh referring to a single session of eating, like in 2516, or so talking about over a long period of time or too frequently. Six, why does the first half express it as low TOVE, which is an understatement and it's also not very specific? Is it neutral? Is it trying to target the havamina that you think it would be good? And if so, wouldn't saying bad also accomplish that? Seven, what's the relationship between the two halves? Is it comparing or contrasting? Uh is there sweetness in Kleikorkov, or is the analogy focusing on a different quality? Uh, is there a limit to the phenomenon in the second half? Is there something low tove in the second half? Eight, is there a difference between harbose and harbet? Nine is the first half and ten to purely as a mushroom, and then ten is this connected to the possible before after. So we had four approaches. We had Isaac's approach, um, which uh had to do with investigating people who have covod for reasons that are not good. And if you investigate that, it'll only result in them having more covered in your eyes, and that's gonna warp your own values. And there could be a value in small measure, but going overboard is bad. Um, and I was not so inclined towards that uh uh interpretation, even though we modified it to make it more in line with my uh preferences. David said um it's about how to attain covod, um, and that uh if you shun all covod, that'll be bad, right? And that's when we brought in the memories about um about you need a little bit of uh of covod in for practical reasons, uh right. And there is mitzvah covot tamipakamim, so it is beneficial, but um the way to get covot is to honor other people and to admire them, Khaker Kovodam Kovod. And then when people see that you're doing that, that'll give you the covot, and also it'll, I guess, help you to realize what is really worthy of covod. Um uh Ezra's approach had to do with the covot of Tamil Khachamim, that this is not just a the more the merrier, there's no such it's uh you can't have too much of a good thing, right? Um, but uh so people people try to get just gobble up Torah as much as they can doing Tafiomi. Um, and uh but really if you actually investigate how Tamita Khachamim become Tamita Khachamim, they don't do that, and and you know, using them as models will actually get you to the either to obtain the Chachmah that gives them that covod, or uh, or even when you haven't gotten that kachama, then that will be a source of covod. And then my approach was um that admiring chhachamim is one thing, but there is going too far where it becomes degrading. Um, and uh you have to be careful of that line. Okay. Um yeah, but uh the main difference is that mine had to do with actual uh to meet a chamim, whereas Isaac had to do with the uh like an imaginary covod or covered for for things that are not really worthwhile. Okay, I want to show you Saidigon, which I have not quite worked out. I didn't have time to prepare today, by the way, so um I apologize for that. So in the uh parish of Saidigon, he says, uh you know what? I can just do this.
SPEAKER_02Make this bigger.
SPEAKER_01So he says like this. This is an interesting, uh, he does not learn Tval Khachamim. Lohimsil as ha yididim halalu. So he says something about um he said yidim are friends, but I think he means peers. Okay. Uh Lohimshil as Haididim Halal, Bakilas of Dvash Elamib Neshim Nivcharim. Um, so it's compared to Dvash because it's something that is choice or like you know, uh desirable. And maybe it is talking about not just peers, but like people who are, I don't know, close peers or or valued peers, maybe is a better way. Do not accept from even your best friends, your most treasured friends, everything that they honor you with. Why? That's why I'm learning taklis means a certain limit. When it reaches a certain measure, uh, in what they honor you with, yidrushumi mucha kumul al kach, they'll seek out uh recompense, you know, uh uh reward, not reward, uh recompense is the best word, pay, you know, uh uh repayment for that. Shenemar, uh, as it says, uh, that the I don't know how he's learning chiker, but the chiker kovodam of their covod. That they want covod back? Yes, they want covod from you, right? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if he's using chiker in the way. The imlot tagamlam tigmalim togamlame. And if you don't uh compensate them, yiganuha, they'll they'll degrade you. And it's possible that they will, it'll, it'll, uh, it'll uh reverse, it'll backfire, and they'll hate you. Right? So it is interesting that like the what's the what's the what's the Havamina? I think it's a reasonable Havamina. Yeah, your friends are honoring you, and exactly. Yeah. Now, if it were some like stranger or just some utilitarian partnership, all right, fine, then you you know that it's just a trade-off, right? But like these are your friends and they're honoring you. So, so you you you just you should know there is going to be we've talked about this in Michelade before that there is a latent uh assumption that people have of of uh of reciprocity. So there they are gonna feel like you should, you know, um uh uh uh you know uh honor them back. Uh and if you don't, it could it could backfire. So don't view it as entirely Lishmah or out of pure Ahaba. Um now, by the way, it is possible for that to be the case. Just don't assume that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I think it could be that part of the hagmia is because first of all, they're your friends, but also every course he naturally assumes they deserve honor. They're friends who are their friends, they're giving them on it. They're like, oh yeah, they're just giving me because I know I deserve exactly yeah, yeah, right. Right.
SPEAKER_01Also, they know me and they like me, so it's not coming from like it's coming from uh the place where cover should come from, you know. Yeah, so I think the interesting uh interpretation. Well, I think what I like about it the most is uh this does not require us to posit any um specific like class of people. I mean, he says you didn't, but uh it might be also that he's tying this to the previous honey positive, which is also about your friends. Right, you know, yeah.
SPEAKER_03And it's I think Edin would just be the greatest fibs, but obviously to anyone below it.
SPEAKER_01Exactly, yeah, right, right, right, exactly. Yeah, that's good. Um, I had an example of this, uh, but uh but just uh this is not the best example, but just a generic example out here, is that um that you know, one common way of showing covod is let's say in Aryashiva, right? You give a shear, you give over an idea, and people compliment the idea, you know. Um and so it's very easy to just take the compliment and view it as genuine and like there's no there's no repayment, you know. But we have to be aware about is if they give a shear or they give an idea. Not that you necessarily have to compliment it every time, but if the pattern becomes they're uh giving you covered for your Torah and you're not giving them covered for their Torah, there's gonna there could be some sort of resentment there, you know. Yeah. Okay. Um that's one thing I'm actually very uh conscious of is that um I tend to only, this is just me. Uh I have a very busy Sunday and I have chrusas and I have preparation and stuff like that. So I don't go to every Sunday shear. And in fact, I usually only go to Ruf Pesachs or if there's a special guest. And I always am worried that like there are many of my peers who support me by coming to my Sunday shear. I want to support them, and I always worry if there's gonna be some sort of resentment, you know. Um, and then I wonder, am I just being self-important? And like that's coming from like a you know, like I don't really know. I should probably just ask them, you know. And oftentimes I will uh apologize and say, like, I really wanted to go to the shear, but I I can't make it, you know. So yeah. Okay, uh, let's do again, haven't prepared, so let's do uh iri because he's gonna be our best uh shot here. Okay, a holdbosh or boslotov of Khapod. All right, uh Niglebo, the external meaning. Ahar Shasiper Bakalus at Tsadik Shudavarkasha, kalan, kalan atzadik, shudavarkasha. After speaking of the degradation of the tsadik, which is something that is uh harsh or bad. What was the man in a council of karma?
SPEAKER_03Oh, thank you.
SPEAKER_01Right, yeah, so that he was degraded before the Russia. Um, right, that was he was the one who gave the peerish of like he sometimes needs to subordinate himself or endure the insults of the uh that the Russia gives him, right? There's a good good pearish there. Um kavodo. So now it's talking about honoring the tzadi. Oh, so that's actually a good uh a good clue that we would have gotten if we had been thinking about that, right? Degradation of the tzadik, honor of the tzadik. So tzadik is the subject. Vihiskir Hzadikim derchlal blush and rabim. So it mentions the tzadikim in uh in a generic manner in plural bahu inyan phikir kubon kabot. Right, fine. But inyon, the idea. Even though it is the sweetest of all foods, um hasmadasum uguna. Um, if you do it all the time, it is uh uh degrading. But is the opposite of my idea? I don't know. Uh uh excess chaker in the covet of tzadikim, the haha racha of and going on at length about the ways of their virtues, I don't know if he means in speech, I assume so, or maybe investigation, who covod laha marbe. Uh it's more uh kolamarbe covod. Yeah, right. It's it's it's better, better, the more the merrier. Kibrovdvarov Baza Yachtal Pasha because uh with a oh Kibrovdvarov Baze Yachtal Pasha. That's a funny funny application of that puzzle, right? Because the the um puzz he's quoting or referencing, I mean, is 109, which is basically 1019. Oh 19, sorry, sorry, yeah, 1019. Barov Dvaram Lo Yahtal Pasha in an um in an abundance of words, then error will not be lacking. So what does he say here? In an abundance of words, error will be lacking, right? Or offense will be lacking. In other words, it sounds like he's saying that the more you uh honor them or you uh talk about their covered in speech, then you're you're not gonna be prone to making mistakes about them because you'll have more more data and more appreciation, you know. About them or you're gonna about yourself? About them, I think.
SPEAKER_02Uh it doesn't mean like not more word in one time, but you can just do it many times and you'll be accustomed to that could be also, yeah. Um that's my excessive amount of one time that just becomes slightly.
SPEAKER_01No, no, correct. Yeah, yeah. That but but it's it's excessive amounts of of take care, uh, is uh is the way I'm understanding it. In other words, like looking into every aspect of their like let's say, like again, just like the more you learn about a Tomin Chacham, right? Like, the more you appreciate like how much greater this person is than the average person or than you thought in your elementary things. So you're not gonna have a pasha. Yeah, Isaiah.
SPEAKER_00So is he reading the positive that the first half is like something that's true in general, but the second half is an exception?
SPEAKER_01I think so. Yeah, yeah. Oh, by the way, sorry, we didn't finish the sentence. But okay. Okay, so it's not not like I said, Pasha when you adopt their ways. In other words, you will become perfected and eliminate your pasha through investigating what makes them good. Uh, this is like I was saying with the um uh Ubosid Bak, right, of uh of learn from the Tommy of Khamaim, right? Of the hidabuku biyosha pulasan. There you go. That's the left on there, right? You'll cling to the uprightness of their actions. Yeah, that's interesting.
SPEAKER_03He's saying the more the merrier.
SPEAKER_01The more the merrier, he is saying the more the merrier, right. Yeah, now that does not necessarily preclude what I was saying. Yeah. Because I was saying that there is an inappropriate way to do it where Exactly, yeah. And also I was talking about sounds like in in his thing, I was learning as like the mice of Kabod and the interactions of Kabod. According to him, you the Tadi might not even know of your existence, right? You could be reading biographies of uh of a Tati who lived in the past and accomplish what he's saying. Yeah, Mosha?
SPEAKER_02Um, well I I guess what what's more of a side point what is the difference between um learning? Is there a concept of learning from your parents as because of learning from some days are coming? Because both are an aspect of covod.
SPEAKER_01Not that I'm aware of. Um there the the only thing is in terms of the setup, the Rah Bagh explains in his commentary on the associate bros in Yisro that I think he explains there, that um one of the purposes of uh cov uh coven and moral Avaim is so that it'll make you more receptive to the guidance that they give you grow uh when you're growing up. But there's no mitzvah of like learn from your parents or cling to their way. I mean, there's tamatora, but that's not like learning from your parents' actions. But but the specific cover by Tamil Kha Khamim is truly for yourself, so that you learn. Uh no. Um, so there's two mitzvos here. There's covod of Tamil Khachamim, but what he's talking about is uh cling to the Shrina, which is a special mitzvah to associate with Tamil Khamim and learn from them. So that's really the the address there. Now, so there's honoring Tamil Khamim will make you more prone to learning from them, and that's what he's talking about. But the mitzvah that this um pertains to is uh is uh Uladov Ka bo is clinging to God by learning from Tamil Khamim.
SPEAKER_02I I'm put a different.
SPEAKER_01Honoring Tamil Khuchamim means doing actions that honor them. And uh right, so so what that does is it instills a certain awe in your I guess that's moron, uh but it it it instills a certain like I mean I'll say it anyway, yeah, uh esteem, honor, respect. And that's for you, but it's also for society, and it's also for your relationship with Torah as a whole. But but that itself would not necessitate that you hang out with them and scrutinize their behavior to try to learn and model yourself after. That's the mitzvah of cling to God.
SPEAKER_03Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, right. Yeah, it's uh two interesting uh mitzvahs there. Yeah, and by the way, just uh I I've said this before, I'm just gonna say this now is the um there's really uh two mitzvos of uh of learning from Tamil Kha Khamim. There's Tamu Torah, which is formal learning, and then there's Ubo Sidbak, which is informal learning. And I tell this to to let's say, like, like when I you know go to uh Connecticut and I play magic with my students, you know, I'm doing because I like magic, but like there is also an idea of spending time with your Rebbe that is not learning, you know, not formal learning because you're learning from him in other ways, or from the casual conversations, or from just seeing how he interacts with people, you know. So like the I think it's interesting that the Torah sets it up that these two types of education. And in the parents, then the father is really in charge of formal education, and the mother is really in charge, not as a mitzvah, but in charge of the uh informal Midos education, which is in reflected in Misle 10. Um uh oh no, sorry, uh yeah, Shma Midi Musraviha, not not uh Shma'abini Musraviha Vatitosh Torsi Mecha. Listen, my son, to the uh oh, that's fine, it's the opposite, right? Yeah, uh but I've heard that idea explained that the Musravicha or that the father's role is the uh formal Tamator, and then the the uh Torsi Mecha is uh the informal Midos training.
SPEAKER_02Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Okay, let's go on to the next Miri. Uh I had one more comment, but I forgot what it was. Oh, yeah, yeah. Uh yeah, I actually I do want to do a little um just side point here. So I've heard, I I won't attribute it to particular Rubem and Aryashiva, but I've heard Rubam and Aryashiva say that like the whole idea of biographies of Godolin is foreign to Judaism. Like it's not something that we um it was never a thing. Like we shouldn't, we shouldn't do that, you know. Um I disagree. Uh maybe published biographies, I don't know, I wouldn't say they were never a thing, like you know, but the the um the biographies are a way to do this, you know, to get this type of benefit from Sadiqim and Khachamim, who are dead. Like, like how you know, how much have we learned? I don't know, I can't speak for you. How much have I learned from reading about the Rav and people's interactions with the Rav and his students? So much. And I never had the opportunity to to be with Rav in in you know uh in real life. And the Ramam, I think, even um acknowledges this, even the Ramban, you know. Um, that's what whenever you're trying to bring a raya against uh something you hear in in Yeshiva. If you go to the Ram, that's like the best source.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. It's not strictly about biography, but isn't any story about our ugly or yeah, 100%, yeah, right.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. See the Aquat source. Yeah. My assumption is that what they mean is like a classic Tadik book where like school biography.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, right. Right. So if it's uh if it's un if it's unrealistic, then uh then yeah, then that's uh that that is better.
SPEAKER_03It becomes like a form of idolization, right?
SPEAKER_01Right. Yeah, I'm I'm referring specifically. I don't have my microphone plugged in. Uh I I I know I can be heard, but yeah. There's bad ways to do this. I'm not denying that. I'm just I'm challenging the claim that like if someone said, I'm gonna read a biography of a Tamikhaum or a goddamn, like that's a waste of time, or that's not that's not something we do. So the the the I think the most explicit place that the Ramam talks about that is in his talking about talking, in his uh Lomitasuf elashtika, and he goes into the five categories of um he has two classifications of speech here, but I think the one I want is the categories of speech as mitzvah, uh, usr, ma'us, ahuv and mutter. So commanded, prohibited, despicable, beloved, and uh and permissible. Okay, like neutral, right? So in the category of ahuv, ha kela karvi, hu ha of who hadibor besheva ha ma'alos has sikhlius ha midosios. So it is uh speech about praising virtues, uh intellectual virtues and ethical virtues, uvgnus hapachis and degrading uh um uh vices, uh you know, bad midos, uh, of both categories. And and like inspiring or motivating the soul towards these midos through stories, through accounts, and she're thinking means poetry, okay, right? Because Ram uh didn't like listening to music, he told you you shouldn't listen to music, right? Um, umanyasa mehain baosnah drag masma, and then using those same vehicles for uh uh for deviating from them. Now, again, the reason why this is significant here is because of course Raman would say you should learn pure keavos, that in learning you should you should learn about virtue. But in addition to learning, telling stories and reading poetry, you know, or or or like you know uh uh imaginative literature, I would include in here, by the way, even uh fiction. I know fiction was not a genre that's true. Fiction novels were not a genre that was around at the wrong time, but fiction that promotes good midos and gets away from bad midos would be under shearing. I'm claiming that. I'm not claiming the Ram said that because he didn't weigh in on that. Um, fame less Shabbea Hammu'ulim Ulahalalam Aloseim. Also to praise people who are mulim, who are virtuous, and to praise them for their virtues. So that their conduct will be beneficial in the eyes of people, and they will follow their way. So, in other words, it's not even just for you, it's the more you talk about these people, then the more others will admire them and it'll be good for for everyone. Uluganus haru'im bh biphisuyuse, and to degrade the uh the people who are bad for their uh imperfections, kadeshi is ganu seem zikram beinibneadam, uh, in order to degrade their actions and their memory in the eyes of people. Again. This is another thing that you can see someone being very religious, being like, if you don't, if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. No, you should speak degradingly about people who have bad mitos. Again, I'm within within within the realms of the halachos of Lash and Hara, but like, like, you know, um, talking, let's say, about um about in the news about people who are doing or exemplifying bad mitos in order that people should learn to to degrade them and to not uh not follow them. That's an interesting thing. That's a uh uh uh I never noticed that definition of Derek Eretz, according to some. Some call say that that's what we mean by derek errets. It's always a vague phrase, right? Derek Eretz can mean either making a living, something, something with Mitos, like Derek Ertz cognate the Torah, or uh, or a euphemism for sex, right? Something very, very weird, uh, you know, yeah. Uh you do uh um like this, you do you select color and you do highlights. Uh, I used to have a system whereby yellow was an important phrase, um blue was methodology points, and then green was something else. But it yeah, I know it's it's good, it is a good defining system. Then you could always go in your, you know, again, everyone should have a personal account in Alhatora. Uh and you go to your personal account and you could look up your your notes, your um your uh uh bookmarks. You have notes. Um I actually don't have notes. What I I wanted to do with Mishlay just does not play out is uh yeah, put my notes in for every possible. Um and then uh Hudgashos is where you get your highlights, you know, so you can find all those. And then uh personal history. Yeah. Yeah. Again, I I you know uh I still say um the more people ask Ruf Pesach for permission for me to give a shear on how to use internet tools and resources, the more likely it will be. People have asked me that, and I've I've I've asked Ruf Pesach uh by email, and he just hasn't responded. So I don't know if it's like he's thinking, forgot about, or if he doesn't want to know, but just you know, for for next year, not now, but for next year. Oh yeah, that's funny. Okay, all right. Um, oh I gotta go soon. Uh let's just do the other Miri. Um Vishma Farshim Shemilos Lotov Moshim Acheris imahem. Uh some say that Lotov is applying to both halves, right? Not like it's a contrast, but they're the same. Uh Klomar, Kamosha Harabos Bakilash Lotov, just as eating a lot of honey is not good. Cain harbos pokakor kovod had tzedikim. So too, investigating the covet of the tzadikim. That might be like mine. Let's see. Ratalomar next page, right? Uh lasimshur sh shint shint. What is that?
SPEAKER_03Simun.
SPEAKER_01Simune Simune.
SPEAKER_03Simone.
SPEAKER_01No, it says simune, right?
SPEAKER_03But measurement.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's just I've never seen that word. Simun. Um, to to give a uh to set a uh a limit, but in the measure of their couple. Klomar, ad kan royal chabid, but ad kan royally lira li are. I never had a how do you vocalize that? Lira, okay, yeah. I always think that, and then isn't that a unit of currency? Yeah, uh, sounds weird. Um, right. So I think this is what I was saying, right? That at a certain point, Kavod impinges on mora, right? I I was saying it goes to Bisley, but like it degraded, like uh what's uh familiarity breeds contempt, I think is the more contempt is not used the word that we say it here, but like like you become overfamiliar with them, you know. Um loto, it's not good. About l'habdo uliramimenu odbli shir mukbal, um bokul mini kabo more she's domnu, is she'd damnu. Meaning wait, wait, hold on a second. About l chabdo ulimenu odbli shir mukbal.
SPEAKER_03Is this saying the uh saying to think the unrestricted fear?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I think this is still saying what the low toe is, right? Yeah, yeah. And there was to honor and fear them in an unrestricted way, in all types of covet amora that happen to be and at all times that happen to be. Like in a basically an un uh not unmitigated, what's the word? Like not haphazard. It's kind of like what you were saying about learning, but you're saying about cover, yeah. What are you saying?
SPEAKER_03I think the opposite to be hard just like having lots of device isn't good. Yeah. Also to be harvest in heiker of the couple, meaning to start figuring out exactly what the soft isn't good rather than just go on. Oh, okay. I see that in his words. Just like going eating too much honey isn't good. Right now, that's a washing code. But what's the shit move on? Well, we just finish your sentence. So to be uh harvust in heiker, what's the on the route taker to start putting exact measurements covered?
SPEAKER_01Right, that's not to regiment your uh your covot and your mora, that's not good, but you should go all out. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, right, right, right. Okay, so he's not saying what I was saying. Um yeah, in other words, like like I do think there is a thing where look, there are halakhas about covod and mora, right? Um, and that serves a purpose, but I do think that there is a type of person who will treat these things almost like technicalities, and that can actually interfere with the purpose of the covot and the mora. Like, like how much am I obligated to honor this guy? You know, that's not gonna lead to the really the covet should be without shear because the covet of the Tamikal Kami is covet of Torah, their Torah, but uh covet of Torah. Um, and uh and if you make it into just this procedural thing, it will not achieve that purpose. I agree with your reading. I think that that's good. Um what's the honey?
SPEAKER_03I don't get the honey. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01The honey?
SPEAKER_03The honey a little bit is good.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you're right, it does sound like the opposite. I think that might be why I was misled.
SPEAKER_03I guess you think is the same as the Hegel, which was the investigation of how much rally should go all out.
SPEAKER_01Uh huh. But then I don't know. Right. Yeah. Let's eat a little bit. Yeah, Mosha.
SPEAKER_03Uh uh.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Yeah. Um, I wish we had time for this, but I actually have to go because today I'm going over the answer in EOP. Yeah, I mean it's been built thing, but uh but this is like the uh the final chapter of the mora. Okay. All right. This is a good good puzzle. I might want to continue this next week because uh it's a good possibility. Also I want to do the uh mora on this. Yeah. Yeah. All right, good. All right, thanks.